[codysoyland]

Evented web development != Javascript.

These problems are all solvable by other languages/frameworks. I use Python, and we have gevent, which does the same thing as Node, but in a more concise language with a richer standard library.

LAMP is not dead. It's evolving.

[Meai]

I agree, in addition javascript is not easy to develop in. Yes, it's fun and fast for little projects. But do I want to stake my future upon a huge javascript codebase? I'd rather not. Navigating through javascript code is beyond cryptic at times.

[geuis]

Javascript is incredibly easy to develop in. Most folks who say that its hard or messy don't understand it and are approaching it the wrong way.

I'm learning Objective-C right now, and it seems to be hard to develop in, at first. Why do I have to put @ in front of strings, or NSLog(@"%@", myVar); to log a string? Why are there so many data types? Wtf is up with all the brackets?

As soon as I actually started at the very basics, this stuff started to make sense. Its a different language with its own ways of solving problems. Its me as the new guy on the team that has to learn the rules before I can start complaining that things don't make sense.

[ignifero]

Objective-C is basically C, so you have to deal with a lot of stuff that is usually hidden in scripting languages. I think he was referring to the fact that javascript code tends to become tangled like spaghetti.

[geuis]

That's actually a really good point. In my career I never learned C, but rather started with basic C++ in college then moved into frontend development early on, so I was never fully exposed to low-level languages at a deep level until relatively recently.

I know what you mean about the spaghetti effect, but this is easily mitigated if you know how to structure your code.