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by easytiger 2055 days ago
Well during the cold war, WW I and WW II you could visit your family, leave your house to have a cup of tea with a friend; you go walk through a restaurant without a mask on your face.

In much of Europe you can't do any of those things right now, without incurring the wrath of state force.

The next equivalent event in history in western europe to this destruction of civil liberty was the nazi occupation of France.

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Yes, in WW1 or WW2 you were able to… oh wait, rot in trenches with a gas mask, or be fighting somewhere in Europe or northern africa or the pacific, or be interned in a concentration camp. That sounds much better than having to wear a mask when you go buy groceries
That's what's called an informal fallacy.
Not at all.
> Well during the cold war, WW I and WW II you could visit your family

My grandmother once told me her dad had to console a German soldier crying in the backyard because he wanted nothing more than being back home in Germany with his wife and children instead of occupying the Netherlands. It's not like he had much of a choice though.

My grandfather's dad (other side) had to work in Germany during the war. He sure as hell couldn't "just visit his family" and there was no realistic option to say no.

And then you have things like Anne Frank hiding in a bloody broomcloset for years. But the above are just two examples of "regular" folk who were not especially persecuted (or indeed, even the occupier).

Good heavens, this has got to be the most ignorant comment I've ever seen on HN. Please, study the daily lives of people in countries occupied by Nazi Germany and you'll find that any comparison to current events is absolutely ridiculous.

I was referring to non deployed persons, obviously.
My great-grandfather wasn't deployed. Anne Frank wasn't deployed. They were just regular citizens.
I think you are confused, I stated the last time any restrictions even remotely similar to this applied was then. But that despite those imposition on freedoms most people in say paris could go visit their parents etc. Which they cannot right now.

You seem to be acting like i'm saying this is worse when i clearly did not