[marketingPro]

Of course people want flexibility, but there are cons-

>Much more difficult for collaboration especially for small questions

>Bad workers exploring nice policies

Pros-

>I can sleep/think about code without being paid. Making my solutions lower cost and higher quality

>Happier employees

>Potentially less micro management needed

[ardit33]

You can make 1pm to 5pm as mandatory, so both the 9-5 folks and 1pm to 9pm folks have some overlap for synchronization, meetings and such.

As for people exploiting it, you should measure relative performance and not but time

One of my first startups I worked had a noon-4pm core hours. You had to be in by noon, and should stay until 4pm, the rest was flexible. I thought it worked really well for both early risers and late owls.

[jniedrauer]

> you should measure relative performance

This is also easier said than done. How do you measure programmer performance? LOC is obviously not a reasonable metric. Closed tickets isn't either. It takes an experienced manager who understands code to understand what work is actually being done, and managers like that are rare and valuable.

[bobthepanda]

The thing is managers already do this either consciously or subconsciously. So we’re just changing how they apply it.

[AlwaysRock]

12-3 is what I prefer for mandatory hours. I'm still going to see you if you are a 6am early bird.

[amelius]

More cons:

- the company restaurant closes at the normal time (or all good stuff is taken)

- you still get that condescending look from early-birds

[watwut]

In tech, it is people who work late who act superior. Early birds have it rather harder as they are seen as leaving early even if they objectively done more work.

[marketingPro]

I am an early bird and there's definitely a weird expectation to stay later than 8 hrs plus lunch.

I definitely never got any bonus points for being at work before my boss.

[amelius]

How can you act superior if the early-birds have already left?

In contrast, early-birds act superior while you are there.

[watwut]

The overlap is exactly the same. Just purely by math and rules of physical space.