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by acgkmopvvgvmgv 2065 days ago
>Wayland won't be production ready in a long time.

With NVIDIA it will never be production ready because NVIDIA doesn't support the Linux standards for Wayland and they don't allow developers to write/use good open drivers and all functionality. Even with X11 and their closed drivers it's a bad experience with glitches in the desktop, but at least the games run.
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NewJazz 2064 days ago
NVIDIA closed source drivers are supported by at least KWin, and IIRC GNOME, on Wayland. Furthermore they are working with the wlroots/sway maintainer to develop a new way for compositors and graphics card drivers to communicate effectively.

TL;DR never say never

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acgkmopvvgvmgv 2064 days ago
I was talking about XWayland and the other problems Wayland devs have mentioned like Pipewire, poor performance, current and future issues FLOSS developers can't fix on their own without being able to patch and only NVIDIA can fix them. A big waste of time for that extra path (even if initially sent by them) that I wish they didn't had to maintain and triage bugs.

The experience with glitches and problems that the user above just describe to you and I see every day on social media. And the blame went to Wayland. I don't claim to know how it works deep down I can only comment about the smell and it's not pleasant.

They promised many things years ago and we are still in the same situation. I will be the first to congratulate NVIDIA if they fix this issue and change their practices. I'm sure they have legit grievances with Linux developers but their behavior is awful if you're a user or want the desktop to succeed.

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