[brixon]

Did you count all incidents or only the ones that happened in real life and not the simulations?

[danielvf]

Simulations counts were times when a safety driver took control of the vechile, and post-incident simulations with the same data show that the AI would have crashed the car without the safety driver. So fair to include them.

[maliker]

I omitted the simulations in the Waymo count. Good idea to add them in?

[IshKebab]

Yeah you should include them because they were only prevented by a safety driver who won't exist in the long term.

[maliker]

Thanks! I missed that definition in the article. Updated the ratios. So it's actually 3.7x more accidents not 1.5x. Definitely changed my conclusion.