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by bamboozled 2066 days ago
What happens to grow up to suck so hard?

Why can't we just look at each other and imagine the child that person once was, then maybe we'd care more about others like your 4 year old does.

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Because allocating limited resources isn’t in the purview of a 4 year old. As you grow up, you begin to learn who wields the power and resources and how it’s allocated and what the consequences are for those who forgo it or can’t get it.
I actually do wonder though if in the end, it really matters?

Everyone with power ends up losing it, or acquiring some strife, maybe if we cared less we'd find out it wasn't that much of a concern anyway.

I mean, do people chose power or does power choose them? Would you appreciate it if you had it?

The entire lifestyle of the west is mostly unsustainable if everything started getting allocated equally. So it matters to a lot of people.
This is beautiful writing and it deserves a reply, but for now I’m just going to read your words and wonder along with you.

I’ll edit this comment at some point but for now, thank you friend. This is beautiful and poignant. :)

Edit - I notice you edited your reply but I’m happy I got to read the original. You’re a beautiful writer.

On a positive note, doing this is a very good way to understand people. Even their bad actions make a lot more sense if you delve into some developmental psychology along with just engaging your intuition about what their inner 4 year old wants out of life.

On a negative note, I think most people convince themselves of being much more grown up than they actually are. Really it's far easier to just get meaner and more calloused to survive while suffocating the core self. Maturity is more like a deliberate and careful edifice built with a lot of work, self-reflection, and self-forgiveness. It's not a given that just getting older does that, other than the inhibitory part of the brain getting better at restraining the emotional part after adolescence. (Usually, unless trauma happens that's sufficient to get stuck in a particular development stage.)

We are taught in Western and most other societies of today to numb pain. The problem is that we have knowledge of the problems of this world. I think if we allow ourselves to feel the pain of our knowledge and understand our existence through it, we can return to a childlike state and realize the pain is not something wrong with us, but our natural inclination and love for the world telling us that we are doing something wrong.

We may not be able to solve the problems created by our species, but if we learn to live with respect for the planet then we can at least know we are doing as much as we can with our own existence.

> Why can't we just look at each other and imagine the child that person once was

As hard as it is to generalize, I'd say it's because sometimes our needs aren't getting met, particularly our need for safety. When we feel like we're in danger, it's very hard to appreciate wonderful things. ("This person feels like they're in danger" is also a decent way to broadly sympathize with other folks, along the same lines as "imagine the child that person once was.")

Thank you, this is beautiful and deep. I think I will try to imagine people as children and imagine them growing up more. Much easier to project loving-kindness that way.
Because the adult that person is now often is the source of so much pain and anguish to others?
It's a lie that kids are naturally good. Leave them alone long enough and it'll go Lord of the flies real quick.
The lord of the flies was made up. Here’s an actual anecdote of what happens (spoiler, they work together): https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/09/the-real-lord-...
>Here’s an actual anecdote of what happens

Sometimes this happens, sometimes not.

Or it does always and not the other way around.