[boltefnovor]

I’m not a fan of these frameworks. They add another giant layer of stuff to learn and understand.

I’d rather just program react and the browser instead of hoping some framework will do it all for me.

[cyral]

Next really doesn’t add a giant layer of anything, it’s almost vanilla React aside from their own routing and the server side functions (which you can start out not using)

[gkilmain]

Have you tried writing a sample project? It took me a few tries to really understand the problem that these framework solve.

[archarios]

When you're working on a larger scale (be that app complexity or number of users) these things make more sense.