[berdario]

The US must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against the US now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid using US made products and services. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product. The web is flooded with services made in the US that spread their propaganda (antivax and QAnon started in the anglosphere) made to keep their population feeble and powerless (some of them even die because they cannot afford insuline). The US, Trump and their 2 party system must not be emboldened any further.

[_-david-_]

Stop whitewashing China's crimes. The US and the rest of the West's abuses are no where near the level of the Chinese government's.

[berdario]

China didn't drop the nuke on harmless civilians, the US did.

China didn't displace tens of millions of people in the middle east from their homes, the US did.

China didn't destabilize dozen of countries (via assassinations, coups, and other unsavory ways to initiate regime change), the US did.

There's one threat to world peace, and that's the US. It's ridiculous that people think that somehow China could be worse than that.

[_-david-_]

Mao killed tens of millions of people which is significantly more than US nukes.

China destabilized Korea, Vietnam and other countries in the area. Are seriously suggesting they didn't want regime changes in those countries?

Many of those people were displaced.

The US under Trump is actually starting to pull out of the Middle East. While bad things happened the US is at least stopping it.

China is continuing their aggression towards minorities in their country.

[berdario]

You should learn some history, instead of repeating US propaganda talking points, example:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_Korea

There was a unified Korea, led by Lyuh Woon-hyung.

Americans arrived afterwards, Lieutenant General John Hodge said: "one of our missions was to break down this Communist government".

If the Americans wouldn't have come, there wouldn't have been any north/south division (in fact, Kim Il-sung wouldn't probably end up leading a country). And you somehow think that it's China who destabilized it?

Similarly, it's the US that invaded Vietnam from the other side of the world. The only difference is that the country was already divided, after the Anti-French Resistance War. You think of it as "communist aggression", but the truth is that these were liberation wars from western colonization.

Similarly, the US propaganda personally blames Mao for "killing" people due to a famine. The reality is more complex, and unfortunately personal responsibility of state leaders is never recognized during these events. Similarly, Trump is "killing" hundred of thousands of people due to his mishandling of the pandemic, but we both know that he won't be held personally responsible.

I can get into more details, but you should reconsider what you choose to spread. If you're just repeating propaganda talking points, you're not going to accomplish anything good for the people in Korea, Vietnam, China or US people themselves. The only people that you're doing a favor to are the fat cats in Washington.

[hnaln]

Yeah what's a few million deaths in the middle east in what? The past 2 decades? War in Yemen. Oh wait it's alright because we'll make a documentary about how it was wrong and how killing all those Iraqis made marines feel bad.

[_-david-_]

I never said the US or the West are perfect but the idea that China

China destabilized Korea, Vietnam and other countries in the area.

The US under Trump is actually starting to pull out of the Middle East. While bad things happened the US is at least stopping it.

[manuu80]

How did you come to that conclusion (the levels of abuse)?

You should watch "A radical experiment in empathy", by Sam Richards