[braindongle]

TLS not E2E. When Zoom got called out for lying about having E2E [0], I looked into the landscape around this a bit. Facetime and Signal are E2E, but don't support recording, which would of course need to be on-device if implemented.

Does the distinction matter? I think so. There's a big difference between the provider promising to keep your data secure and to not do anything underhanded with it versus the provider simply not having access to your data.

[0] https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/31/21201234/zoom-end-to-end-...

[braindongle]

Really, a ding here? I thought HN was where you go to discuss what's actually going on under the hood, not so much "now you need a Google account", which will surface itself in your general tech news feed. Hmm. I hope we don't go the way of Slashdot. What a sad decline that was. Where Google comes down on TLS vs E2E is a BFD.