[cjauvin]

I manage all my projects using a constellation of flexible (and hand-picked) tools it offers: magit for versioning, Org for documentation, note taking and time tracking, blacken, isort and prettier wrappers for my code formatting, ivy, counsel and dumb-jump for searching stuff and moving around, and I could go on and on. I understand that Emacs doesn't feel as "modern" as PyCharm or VS Code in a sense, but I don't think the "it's not an IDE" argument holds. It can be (if you want and take the time for it) a very powerful IDE, customized to exactly your needs. It can also be a lot of other things in addition. It's a difficult to classify tool, in a category of its own.

[BeetleB]

The problem is that everyone wants something different in an IDE (and the same person often wants different stuff depending on the language they are programming in). Whatever default Emacs can provide will be suboptimal for most users and cause additional dissatisfaction. People have a more open mind when when they know it doesn't include an IDE and may have to work to get one up and going than if they simply see the default one and think that's the best they'll get with Emacs.

To give you an idea, I used Emacs as a programming editor for a decade, and only about 2 weeks ago did I first set it up as some kind of IDE (or rather, I just installed elpy and it did it all for me). I was perfectly happy without using it as an IDE - knowing the constraints that come with it.

[DoingIsLearning]

> and I could go on and on.

Please do, I just learned about dumb-jump, any more suggestions of things that worked for you?

[cjauvin]

Some other packages I can't live without: expand-region, git-link, pass, treemacs, vterm.

[ywei3410]

Have you tried Lispy [1] and it's derivatives (Lispyville if you're a vim user)? It single-handedly changed how I felt about Lisp editing.

[1] https://github.com/abo-abo/lispy

[d0mine]

It looks like we have a similar taste in packages. Would you mind sharing a link to your dot emacs?