[stareatgoats]

> I think that feudalism is fundamentally bad.

For the record, I think this is not how one should look at history. We have our current values, but to anachronistically apply these values to whole epochs long gone leads astray IMO.

Personal ethics is another matter, things like greed, dishonesty, callousness, betrayal between equals seem to be held in low regard wherever and whenever we choose to look.

There have been attempts to try and superimpose such personal ethics on grand epochs in history, but it requires a painful shoehorning of personal morals into some square holes where it doesn't belong. It doesn't hold up to serious scrutiny.

[watwut]

We are actually allowed to have opinions on past organizations. Both in terms of ethics and in terms of whether this would be practical idea to follow. Also, we are allowed to judge past people.

Also, people are more likely to knee jerkly defend everything for by past important people and see them as unaware victims of circumstances them to judge them. Maybe except Hitler and Stalin.

Sometimes people do superimpose own values inappropriately, but other times those making judgements just know more about actual acts of those people - even including historical context.

Narcissists and sociopaths and what not are not modern phenomenon never heard about before. And their contemporaties for expressed a lot about them.

[edgyquant]

Eh Early (Pre-Charles Martel) feudalism came about as a way for Romans to expand their slave base while pretending they didn’t own slaves.