[jerry1979]

> So basically Bitcoin is a digital gold

The hate is getting less hatey each year. I think networks like lightning might centralization some, but as long users remain able to pay uncensorably Bitcoin still checks the ecash box.

[RandomBacon]

> uncensorably Bitcoin

Bitcoin can be censored. Do to it's transparent nature, miners can refuse to add transactions to blocks based on specific criteria such as sender, receiver, and transaction amount.

[jerry1979]

When miners start censoring payments for what I'll (for the sake of argument) call "non-engineering" reasons, then Bitcoin will no longer check the ecash box for me. Until then, it seems like self preservation combined with fungibility efforts prevent this kind of censorship.