[haroldegibbons]

> I submit far too many people are expecting parenting, someone to come to their aid.

Quality post. The victim mindset has a way of latching on to the ego like a parasite and taking over. We could all use a little pest control. I happen to know the best kind.

[ddingus]

Maybe I should have left it. Each time I make the argument: conversations are two way streets, that we all have the option to manage our responses, etc...

It seems like the battle for real expression, however beautiful or ugly it may be, is already lost.

It may be lost in the legal department and "save the children" legislative assemblies.

In any case, you are not wrong.

In the vast majority of these more toxic interaction attempts, others employing their many options besides righteous indignation do tend to enjoy far less toxic outcomes.

And when modeled by a few notable contributors, its catchy. Entire communities can be inoculated.

I have seen this establishing of norms turn toxic people into strong advocates.

It all starts with everyone understanding what their options are and that they really can manage their responses toward good.

Of course that's work we have to do and the work, futile in my view, to attempt to control others seems to attract more energy and here we are.

Humor is one of my favorite gotos. It offers a very wide range of outs for all involved.

[ddingus]

I am glad you saw it.