[meddlepal]

The fragility of Dell's consumer laptops is why I continue to buy Lenovo's which are less sleek but have better durability and run Linux just fine. In recent memory I've had an X1 Carbon and X1 Carbon Extreme Gen 1 and been very satisfied.

[bluedino]

Lenovo parts availability is a huge plus over Dell as well. Second hand or repair parts are hard to find for them.

[znpy]

Lenovo are also way better at warranty. In my experience they just asked for the serial number of the ThinkPad, it was still covered and they accepted it (and fixed it). It was an used laptop.

Dell OTOH asked for the original receipt of purchase, that of course I didn't have because that also was an used laptop.

Also, the latitude series is way better than the xps line. I've got the latitude 7390 from dell and it's just marvelous.

So yeah, if you're buying new, dell or Lenovo ThinkPad (I'd recommend a ThinkPad though).

If you're buying second hand, ThinkPad is the way.

[freedomben]

Exactly my thoughts too. I love the look and build of the Dell's but the Lenovos, while ugly, are so tough and so easy and cheap to repair. I buy all ThinkPads these days (most recently the T580 and T490, both of which are amazing and run Fedora like a dream, out of the box).

[selectodude]

Is it still impossible to find non-garbage non-$200+ replacement batteries? I had to give up on my X61 because it was no longer a mobile device.

[riquito]

I recently replaced the two batteries of a t460s, I paid 155 usd (53 + 70 + shipping outside USA) , using the Lenovo official vendor (encompass)

[orev]

The X1s are part of Lenovo’s business line, not consumer, so you’d need to be comparing to the Dell Latitudes to make it fair.

[meddlepal]

I've owned T5xx and T4xx in the same timeframe, they're also high quality.

Im not sure the X1 Extreme is part of the biz line... it's marketed at gaming or more accurately people that want a Work/Play device.