Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by whack 2074 days ago
> Ugh. The mind of a narcissist on full display here.

Is this ad-hominem really necessary? The author didn't make character attacks on anyone, I don't see why you feel the need to do so.

> You must be some bottom-feeding moron who doesn't understand that [Unicorn Co]'s valuation just rose 4x YoY.

Contrast this to what the author actually said:

"Optimizing learning over money early in your career.

Since I left Apple, its stock has almost tripled while Uber's stock has been... I probably would be better off financially had I stayed. However, what I learned at Uber is way more valuable to me, given my career aspirations."

I'm genuinely surprised that the HN community thinks a toxic comment like this is upvote-worthy

2 comments

It's brash for sure, but if its garnering upvotes its likely because it struck enough of a cord to overcome HNs dislike for personal attacks. I think people are tired of blog posts telling them what to prioritize in life.
> I'm genuinely surprised that the HN community thinks a toxic comment like this is upvote-worthy

Is this a̶d̶-̶h̶o̶m̶i̶n̶e̶m̶ [EDIT: attack] really necessary? I'm sharing a thought about the ridiculous nature of bay area hustle culture.

> Contrast this to what the author actually said: "Optimizing learning over money early in your career.

Contrast that to what she goes on to say in the article itself. She laments on how she missed out on Uber stock rising by not ditching Apple sooner. She then pulls a figure out of thin-air about how much net worth you're going to lose by "wasting" your career on any given year by not following her arbitrary framework for self-worth.

"Optimizing learning over money early in your career" would bear far more weight if she actually used an example like going into academia, or joining a tiny startup with low pay. Going from one 150k+ position to another 150k+ position with (gasp) lower performing stocks (!!) is hardly a sacrifice. Moreover, she speaks as if she already knew Uber stock was going to go down when she joined. Uber happened to tank Apple happened to rise. But she acts like she factored that into her decision before she left Apple.

I'm genuinely surprised some people still can't recognize how absolutely out-of-touch it sounds to lament over a "wasted" year of career at Apple, while most of the world is just trying to get by. Likewise, claiming you stopped finding opportunities to learn anything at Apple after only 6 months sounds like self-inflating bullshit.

So, I hope I have eased your surprise. It's toxic to tell people that they're wasting their career by valuing stability and work-life balance over weird learning frameworks, and net-worth. It's not toxic to call out such privileged fools for doing so.

> Is this ad-hominem really necessary?

"toxic comment" is not an ad-hominem. The opinion of toxicity is scoped explicitly to the position ("comment"), not the person.

In contrast, your original post's usage of "the mind of a narcissist" is directed at the individual (and their mind), not just their opinion.

This is true. I did write that hastily, and therefore mis-used ad-hominem.