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by stale2002 2077 days ago
> Why would the rules that govern the phone network make sense to apply to Wikipedia?

Because it is a platform? I don't see a problem with enforcing neutrality on platforms, in the same way that I don't see a problem with enforcing it on my phone company, or my ISP.

> Do you think HN would be a better place

I think the old school reddit model is a reasonable goal to aim for for these types of platforms.

(yes reddit has taken down some communities as of late, but lets assume that this didn't happen, to clarify the example)

IE, delegating moderation to users, but allowing communities in general to be created, with their own sets of rules, feels pretty fair and neutral.

> I still don’t understand what outcome you want for social media. How do you imagine it will look?

The model would be that any form of "moderation" on non-illegal content would be driven entirely by users, or communities of users.

IE, we can still allow people to do things like have shared block lists, or even curated communities within that platform, as long as other users are also able to create their own communities on that platform, that ignore those sets of rules.

Users could still make the choice to have certain rules, or moderation, if that is what they want.

Or, in other words, the reddit model, but without reddit removing non-illegal communities (which, to be fair, doesn't happen that often on reddit anyway. Reddit still mostly tries to be neutral, and they do an ok job with it)

EX: if a user doesn't want to see NSFW stuff, or trolling, or "misinformation", or any other offensive content, then there could be general categories, that describe those things, and the user can have that as a setting to not see that stuff.

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>EX: if a user doesn't want to see NSFW stuff, or trolling, or "misinformation", or any other offensive content, then there could be general categories, that describe those things, and the user can have that as a setting to not see that stuff.

Let me go out on a limb here and say that no-one is going onto Facebook looking to find misinformation. They may be looking for stories that appeal to their prejudices and be willing to suspend disbelief for those stories.

But no-one is going to tick the box saying "please show me stuff that is actually definitively false, and potentially dangerous to my person".

So the problem will simply move along to how the "misinformation" tag is being applied and the biases at play there.

> But no-one is going to tick the box

Completely disagree. I would absolutely tick that box, as would many other people, specifically because we don't necessarily automatically trust whatever authority is "deciding" what is misinformation or not.

Instead, I would prefer to research an issue, by looking at multiple sides, and make a judgement, as opposed to having some minister of truth controlling what I am or am not allowed to read.

> is being applied and the biases at play there.

But the point is, that if you don't trust a certain group or source's opinion on what "misinformation" is, then you could choose a different authority on that.

IE, the tags for what is or is not "misinformation", would be community controlled, and you could pick which community or group to use as the "source" for this tag.