[ryandward]

I guess it isn't news to me, but I'm running out of places for legit conversations and product recommendations.

[cblconfederate]

It's a constant uphill battle, but it seems the harder a platform is to use, the less likely it is to gather big crowd and thus the marketers. So perhaps an old style BBS, IRC , or a newsgroupserver, and a client built intentionally with bad UI