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by helge9210 2072 days ago
I can give another example.

Sometimes kids overwork their heart and coach is supposed to stop the kid to protect their health. Coach can't tell the kid in front of the group "You worked too hard, come stand here and rest", this would make the whole group to feign being overworked. Instead the coach is saying "You're not working hard enough, come here and stand in front of the group as a punishment for being lazy".
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colanderman 2072 days ago
As a former educator, that is a horrible way to deal with that situation. The kid learns the wrong lesson and feels terrible about it. Lazy adult "solutions" like that can traumatize children.

The proper solution is just tell the kid to take a breather without stating a reason (maybe tell them privately how to notice on their own when they are overworking themselves). The other kids won't notice or care.

(And if some kid is looking for an excuse not to do the exercises... why are they even there? And who cares? It's an extracurricular, the point is to get out of it what you put in. It's not boot camp.)

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helge9210 2072 days ago
It is not a prison. Everyone is free to go and never return. These kids are not there to learn a lesson. They are there to become champions.
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hevelvarik 2072 days ago
Sure, they are there to be champions. And every girl goes to Cali to be a star. But at what cost and to what gain and at what odds are all questions parents need to consider. The article largely agrees that the way it’s done is according to the incentives. It’s the job of parents to say nope when the enterprise is to the detriment of the long term health of the child. Which is why I largely blame the parents not the coaches. The parents are PAYING for precisely this treatment and it’s grotesque.
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watwut 2072 days ago
That is horrible way of dealing with it.

First, you are literally punishing kid for being overworked, while claiming they are slackers are teaching them to overwork themselves even more next time.

The harder the kids try, the more the kid will be punished and claimed to be lazy.

Second, you are lying to the kids, they have no way to actually figure out rules.

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