[craftinator]

Good, we have a consensus then; now as for your original cherry picking comment, let's look at something more substantive[1]:

"In Germany, for example, police recruits are required to spend two and a half to four years in basic training to become an officer, with the option to pursue the equivalent of a bachelor’s or master’s degree in policing. Basic training in the U.S., by comparison, can take as little as 21 weeks (or 33.5 weeks, with field training). The less time recruits have to train, the less time is afforded for guidance on crisis intervention or de-escalation."

This isn't a single cherry picked event; it is the minimum required standard. I think that perhaps our police are just poorly trained thugs compared to the Germans; the British police force has a more comparable training to ours (36 weeks I believe), but they ARE NOT ARMED. In order to carry a firearm, they need higher rank, more years of experience, and additional training in order to carry a firearm.

1. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/06/am...

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Our police is not armed because we don't keep shooting each other at protests which seems to become a norm over there. American societies, in general, is much more violent.

[craftinator]

> American societies, in general, is much more violent.

I disagree with this assertion. It's very hard to generalize this type of property; really the only way is to use some type of normalized data, and that faces the problem which plagues all generalization, in that it doesn't apply to large swaths of what is being generalized across. I think that Detroit is a violent place, and if you generalize across all of Michigan, you'll see Detroit isn't representational.

There are some places in the US, mostly in dense urban areas, where gang and organized criminal violence is a problem. These places need to have well armed violent response units. Cops should not be engaging every situation in these places as if they are all extreme violence situations, but in the case that there are people shooting at other people, call on those violent response units.