[sriku]

A scarier thought is that it has been hard to convince people to wear masks to save themselves, so what hope do we have of getting them to save the planet or even just some species that share it with us? (read a tweet to this effect, but didn't keep a ref)

[raducu]

Please, please consider your privilege first, before beying condescending about the world population.

Helping the Earth is very, very high on Maslow's pyramid, just appreciate that you are that high on it and think how to bring more people at thay level.

Plagues and wars cannot help the environment, but the bettering of the condition of man kind can, and is the only way forward.

In order to help the Earth, we first have to help man kind.

[brokenkebab]

Wars, and plagues do help “the environment" when the latter is meant in the way too many environmentalist view it - as a no-human wilderness.

[raducu]

The environment can be preserved if:

a) you keep the human population minuscule, at a primitive techonlogical level

b) you completely wipe out all humans

c) humans become so advanced they transcede their natural limitations