[toast0]

Alternatively, I buy $100-$200 smartphones (I prefer ambitious phones that didn't sell at MSRP and then get marked down; Fire phone, Nextbit Robin, Essential PH-1, had to buy regular phones after that; considered the new iPhone SE, but after the PH-1, I'm not buying anything without a headphone jack I can't lose, and I'd rather not do anything without usb-c). Those usually last 12-24 months and then you get a fresh one.

[silverpepsi]

and these phones never at any point in time had the performance or capabilities of the flagships so it's a lot like when I was shocked to realize these budget laptops everyone is so proud of themselves for "stealing" had cpu benchmarks still unable to compare with my 8 year old desktop

I should know, I did a few years of the $200ies and then got a $400 Xiaomi Note 10. Difference is absolutely beyond night and day for some uses

[SZJX]

I agree. I have a Pixel 2 XL and was considering OnePlus Nord, but I think I'm fed up with Android and will buy some model of iPhone 12 as soon as it's released. People might say that iPhone is a "luxury item" but for me and surely for many users, not having their phone randomly disconnect with Bluetooth devices/restart/take literally 5 seconds to launch the camera does not count as "luxury", but instead is a bare minimum for something you use heavily day-to-day. Therefore spending e.g. 600 euros more is a no brainier especially given the payment can be made over 2 years. I won't upgrade my phone every year but 36 months sound about right.

By the way the similar logic applied to my laptop and I felt much more at ease and productive after returning to Mac after three years with X1 Carbon + Arch Linux. The cost was easily worth it (the one thing I missed is a proper window manager like Xmonad but I can get by with Amethyst just fine).

[watwut]

Majority of people don't need fast cpu. Majority of people need fast phone or those better capabilities even less.

I had 5 years old phone and bought new one only because of battery going out and the phone screen on the verge of breaking. Yes new one is faster and have better camera. No, I would be actually fine with the same model as before.

[gonehome]

I’d argue more people need faster phones more than faster computers because more people need a phone more than a computer.

There’s some weird status thing with people preferring to be digital masochists unnecessarily. Like people who used to loudly tell everyone they don’t have a TV, good for you?

Getting a high end phone every year when you can trivially recoup most of that cost from flipping the old one lowers the bar.

Sure you can choose to use outdated hardware for years if you want to, but a lot of people would rather not.

[watwut]

The thing is, you gain nothing of value by that new phone every year. It is not masochism when you feel zero pain.

Also, but that is my personal pet peeve, new phones are too big for my hands. I had to buy new, it is smallest that was available and still uncomfortably big.

The smaller phones that were before were more comfortable and i could control them with one hand. So currently it is even loss that i had to buy new.

[toast0]

Fire phone had a Snapdragon 800, Robin had an 808, and PH-1 had an 835. Those were all flagship chips, and they were all cheap when I bought them. I'm hoping someone else comes by with a new flagship to firesale, but maybe investors figured it out. :/