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by tzs 2078 days ago
> The story of human evolution is full of ancient trysts. Genes from fossils have shown that the ancestors of many living people mated with Neanderthals and with Denisovans, a mysterious group of extinct humans who lived in Asia

In the case of Neanderthals, isn't that "all" people rather than "many" people?

Neanderthals are believed to have gone extinct 40000 years ago.

But there was an article here the other day about the genetic isopoint [1], which is the most recent time when every human alive then was either an ancestor of every human currently alive or had no descendants that are currently alive.

Most researchers put the genetic isopoint somewhere between about 4000-15000 years ago.

If both of these are true (or even if not, as long as the genetic isopoint is after Neanderthal extinction), then all my ancestors that descended from Neanderthals and were alive at the genetic isopoint are also your ancestors, and so you are also descended from Neanderthals through them.

There seems to be a lot more uncertainty about when the Denisovans went extinct. It seems likely that they were probably also all gone by the isopoint and so "all" rather than "many" probably goes for them too.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24686904

2 comments

Subsaharan Africans are believed not to have any Neanderthal admixture, and the logistics of the spread out of Africa would be a good reason why.
Admixture is different from ancestry.

Your kids only get half your DNA, their kids only get half their DNA, and so on. You can eventually end up with descendants who have none of your DNA.

If the genetic isopoint really was after the Neanderthals went extinct than everyone in sub Saharan Africa has Neanderthal ancestry even if none of them have Neanderthal admixture.

I'm not sure it's 'all'. Khoi-San peoples were pretty well isolated reproductively until recently and diverged before the Neanderthal introgression dates that I'm aware of. They're pretty much the reason the mt-MRCA and Y-MRCA dates are so old.