[diabeticApe]

Yes. I share your concern but its becoming apparent that the current state of affairs is breaking down. People are too smart they're seeing through the b.s. more and more by the day, and they're pissed. So what do we do now?

[coretx]

Step one is to NOT repeat the cycle. Einstein once said something about trying the same thing twice. Step two is the application of specialized, temporary but powerful guerrilla politics while we try to figure out what Step 3 ought to be.

Just don't underestimate the power of step one in large numbers.

[diabeticApe]

Well my suggestion is that instead of waiting around and crossing our fingers that everything will work out, we just figure step 3. Because otherwise someone else will and they probably wont give two shits about any of us if it interferes with thier incentives.

[coretx]

If you figured out step 3 and still think that a more swift party could have rendered you susceptible to the threat described, it is highly likely step 3 in fact was not really figured out while probably failing to incorporate step one while being at it. Although this has been written somewhat frivolously I did not make a joke when trying to convey the importance of Not repeating the cycle. But if some choose to not heed this warning, please let them setup a political party diametrically opposing what they desire only to sabotage the very same party covertly. Or as Lenin once said, the best way to deal with opposition is to lead it. This way at least some of your energy will lead to results.