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For starters, I dislike the title of the post. The thread language design and community/eco-system creation around the language.

I am not aware of how if at all Steve is qualified to make a well judged statement on either language design or the communities that develop around languages since afaik he has not done either.

I have been following the thread from the beginning since I am on the list, Steve Yegge comes of as delusional with his claims on how he influenced the Python community with one of his blog posts.

On the couple of instances where Steve was requested about what he contributed in tangible fashion, he mentions months of effort an JSwat command line support, everyone interested should check out the project and his contributions on code.google.com

On the second occasion he refuses to publish anything that the community can see or use or enhance.

I hope he proves me wrong, but at this time, he is blowing a lot of hot air, off the wrong end, and should stay away from the blog post he intends to write, his facade of being a real voice for a developer community is crumbling fast