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by nendroid 2087 days ago
>The points you made about morality are points that other philosophers have already made. You are not avoiding philosophy by declaring morality to be arbitrary and defending your assertion, you are in fact doing the opposite and contributing to the philosophical discourse on the nature of morality. You can arbitrarily move the boundaries of the definition of a word to encompass whatever you want. That is what philosophy is. If I want to talk about something meta well being meta is part of philosophy because I defined it that way.

How about I redefine irrationality to include logic? Then when someone says I'm being irrational I just tell them they that irrationality is part of logic and that I'm actually being logical.

Philosophers always get into these meta paradoxes. These aren't profound concepts it's just language semantics involving the arbitrary definition of a word. If you define philosophy to be a many arbitrary academic fields including logical paradoxes and logical arguments then trying to logically argue your way out it of course it creates a sort of paradox. But the paradox only exists because of the arbitrary definition and that is exactly my argument.

Philosophy is an arbitrary definition. A hodgepodge of ideas many which have no relation to one another but it happens to include logic and self referential paradoxes that can be used to entrap anyone who attempts to argue against it. Word play has no meaning in the face of actual concepts, if philosophy is a word play then what's the point? It's basically the study of every single thing on the face of the earth.

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It appears you don’t even know what philosophy is. If you think it’s all word play, you must either be unwilling or unable to understand the concepts behind the words.
All concepts can be victims of wordplay regardless of the complexity of the concept. Logic is Logic and religion is religion. These two words are concepts.

The word "Philosophy" combining the concepts like religion, morality, science and logic into a singular field of thought is called "word play" because the very definition of "Philosophy" is the combination of several of these concepts. Logic is used by math but it is not math, logic is used by science but it is not science. Could one say the same about philosophy? Can you remove all those concepts of religion and morality and science from philosophy and does the word "philosophy" have enough merit like "logic" to stand on it's own without resting on the shoulder of actual concepts?

The answer is no. The reason is because philosophy itself has no meaning it is simply a grouping of concepts and therefore "word play." My main argument in this entire thread is that the grouping that "philosophy" encompasses is arbitrary and flawed. Religion and Logic do not belong in the same group.