[pnutjam]

Cherry picking data can certainly show that private and home schooled kids do better on tests. It's easy to self select and paint a great picture.

US Public schools blow everyone else out of the water if you shave off the bottom 10%. The US problem with schooling is more and more a problem of equity. People need to understand that helping other kids isn't going to hurt their kids.

US taxpayers would rather throw money at prisons and police instead of education and social workers. I don't mean schools when I say education, I mean outreach to families and help getting them what they need.

[primrose]

"US Public schools blow everyone else out of the water if you shave off the bottom 10%."

Who is "everyone else?"

"US taxpayers would rather throw money at prisons and police instead of education and social workers."

Agreed. End the war on drugs and personal freedom. End the wars, bring every troop home, from everywhere. Cut the military budget.

"I mean outreach to families and help getting them what they need."

In 2019, we spend $90,960 per family of 4 on welfare. The money's there. Unaccountable bureaucracies waste money. This will never change.

[pnutjam]

A little dated, but here is a good citation. https://inequality.org/research/america-failing-schools/

Where is yours for that $90k BS. Sounds like a serious argument for just giving poor people cash.

[primrose]

"US Public schools blow everyone else out of the water if you shave off the bottom 10%."

Again, I don't know who you're referring to by "everyone else."

"Where is yours for that $90k BS."

Enjoy!

Federal Breakdown 2019 in Billions:

$59: EITC Refundable Tax Credits - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/020-0906

$29: Child Tax Credit - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/020-0922

$64: SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Programs) - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/012-3505

$51: Housing Assistance - https://www.hud.gov/sites/dfiles/CFO/documents/3%20-%20FY19C...

$57: SSI (Disabled, blind or senior citizens) - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/028-0406

$31: Pell Grants - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/091-0200

$16: Temporary Assistance for Needy Families - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/075-1552

$23: Child Nutrition - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/012-3539

$12: Head Start - https://www.acf.hhs.gov/about/budget

$5: Job Training - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/016-0174 , https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/016-0181

$5: WIC (Women, Infants, and Children) - https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/wi...

$5: Child Care - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/075-1550 , https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/075-1534 ,

$4: LIHEAP (Utility bill help) - https://liheapch.acf.hhs.gov/Funding/funding.htm

$1: Lifeline (phone payment help) - https://www.usac.org/wp-content/uploads/about/documents/annu... Page 8

$409: Medicade - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/075-0512

Total: $771 billion

People below the poverty line in 2019: 33.9 million - https://www.statista.com/statistics/233138/number-of-people-...

$771 billion / 33.9 million below poverty citizens = $22,743

$22,743 * Family of 4 = $90,972

THIS IS JUST FEDERAL SPENDING AND DOES NOT INCLUDE STATE AND LOCAL SPENDING!

[pnutjam]

Wow, just kind of threw the kitchen sink in there didn't you. Many if not most of those go to middle class and higher families. Pretty thanks for providing the details so we can all see how disingenuous this argument is.

[primrose]

Fair enough. Where are your numbers?