[analog31]

Availability will dictate choice to a large extent unless there is a fair amount of overcapacity. What if there are no schools with available capacity within, say, 40 miles? What if a large region has exactly one company operating schools? What if that company goes out of business during the school year?

Why aren't other countries lining up to try voucher schools? Let's see some success stories.

What are the choice criteria that parents are supposed to sort out when trying to get their kid into an available seat?

[primrose]

What if there's not a(n) _______ with in 40 miles? Yet loads of people live 40 miles away from a lot of things. Somehow the market provides for them.

"What if a large region has exactly one company operating schools?"

Like today with government run schools?

"What if that company goes out of business during the school year?"

Fair point. Are you assuming there won't be competition? Stager voucher payments through out the school year.

"Why aren't other countries lining up to try voucher schools?"

Indoctrination. Very effective way of controlling thought. I would recommend reading the origins of US schooling, from Prussia. https://www.forcedschool.com/post/69947261758/the-prussian-m...

"Let's see some success stories."

Denmark. Education dollars are tied to the student not the school district. Their kids are pretty smart.

"What are the choice criteria that parents are supposed to sort out when trying to get their kid into an available seat?"

More choice then what they currently have. Markets, devoid of gov incentives (unlike health care and education), do a good job with oversupply.

[analog31]

Don't worry, _______ will provide.

Of course the Prussian cabal has been secretly controlling our schools for as long as Prussia has been a country, but effectively? And I don't see voucher schools in my state offering radically different education, but rather, just doing the same thing with better discipline and fewer special needs kids.

Most children in Denmark attend public schools. They have a limited number of private schools, backed up by the public school system, just like I described above.

[primrose]

"Don't worry, _______ will provide."

I know. Capitalism is great!

"Of course the Prussian cabal has been secretly controlling our schools for as long as Prussia has been a country, but effectively?"

Prussia set the model. Our country uses it for our country's indoctrination. Not a hard concept.

"And I don't see voucher schools in my state offering radically different education, but rather, just doing the same thing with better discipline and fewer special needs kids."

Why?

"Most children in Denmark attend public schools."

But the funds are tied to the children, not the school district. Doing so would create more competition in existing public schools.

[analog31]

>>>> I know. Capitalism is great!

I was thinking "God will provide," equally hypothetical.

>>>> Prussia set the model. Our country uses it for our country's indoctrination. Not a hard concept.

But effectively? Prove that our schools are actually carrying out indoctrination. It's not even measured. How would we know? The origins and even structural similarities don't prove the intention or outcome of contemporary education. You have to show that what you're claiming is actually happening.

>>>> Why?

Ask them. Probably because of parental demand, and it's an easy formula. If charter schools are loosely modeled on the public school formula, it's easier to move kids in and out, and to hire teachers.

>>>> But the funds are tied to the children, not the school district. Doing so would create more competition in existing public schools.

You have to prove an actual effect on competition. Without overcapacity, slotting kids into schools is a zero sum game. The system may be quite stable over time, which might suggest that something other than competition is driving quality.

[primrose]

Capitalism is not hypothetical and we have evidence of it. The wall falling in 1980's Germany and seeing the stark difference in quality of life being one of the more dramatic examples.

"Prove that our schools are actually carrying out indoctrination."

The pledge of allegiance. https://www.forcedschool.com/post/69947261758/the-prussian-m...

"modeled on the public school formula" and "The system may be quite stable over time"

Like Detroit or LA?

"actual effect on competition."

Better quality goods and services have been the observed effect of markets.

[analog31]

Well, if the crown jewels of capitalism and Prussian indoctrination are a government run voucher school program in a socialist country, and the Pledge of Allegiance, then you've certainly got me. ;-)