[knaq]

I take issue with the idea that "Children want to please their parents".

Especially around age 13 or 14, pissing off parents is a sport.

[seg_lol]

Yeah you only get 6 or 7 years before the relationship changes. Seemingly large for the child but a fleeting blip for the parents.

[tmaly]

Is this true for all cultures or only Western ones?