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by walterbell 2091 days ago
> I'll admit I bought a flip phone for the purposes of avoiding any virus apps that may be required in future should that happen. I just want to stay off the radar and I have a right to do so.

iOS 13.7+ can track your location for Covid contact tracing, even if there is no "virus app" installed. There should be an opt-out setting.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/tech/apple-google-contact-tra...
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alienfilesystem 2091 days ago
Yes, mine is turned off. Look at some European countries now. England has QR codes at the entrances to all public spaces. Download and install the app or provide your details that they hold for 21 days. No, thank you. Will. Not. Comply.
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walterbell 2091 days ago
Germany is introducing a fine for providing incorrect contact details to restaurants. Former East Germans have living experience with "papers please".

We need all test statistics to be normalized, e.g. with transparency on PCR cycle threshold used by the test vendor and laboratory.

Given Bluetooth security weaknesses, it's only a matter of time before a legal challenge occurs against an iOS proximity assertion which has a large economic consequence, e.g. person returns to country B with PCR CT30 after being near a person in country A with PCR CT40 "positive" test result.

Should Person B be quarantined (e.g. they are expected to perform in a high-value sporting event) if they have no symptoms and there's a broad discrepancy in PCR cycle thresholds? Lawyers will sort this out after enough money is at stake to justify thorough collection of scientific evidence to challenge local policy assumptions syndicated by global iOS.

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RonanTheGrey 2091 days ago
> Germany is introducing a fine for providing incorrect contact details to restaurants

The older I get, the more true the adage "those who do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them" becomes to me.

Why is it that every few generations we have to repeat the mistakes of the past, in versions ever more vicious and horrific, in order to learn (for a couple of generations maybe) that it was a bad idea?

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RonanTheGrey 2091 days ago
To preface, I agree with your stance.

But it leaves me wanting more. I mean -- we know, to be blunt, we know that the vast, vast majority of people will never stand up and agree with you, even if some unidentified part of them wants to. The world is marching in lockstep toward authoritarianism again, and cheering it along the whole way.

Where does all this go? What can we do? Disappear into a countryside somewhere and live off the land? What's the endgame for those of us who don't want to play anymore?

I don't have an answer to this. And without an answer, symbolic acts of rebellion become meaningless to me and I suspect, is 99% of the reason nobody else stands up either. Without an alternative - there's no point in fighting back.

So how do we create an alternative? Not just advocate for one... create it. So that people flock to it.

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alienfilesystem 2091 days ago
I think one of the best voices in this regard is a man named Dave Cullen out of Ireland. His YouTube channel, Computing Forever, has always been spot on in regard to the plandemic and other authoritarian happenings. He has some fascinating guests as well. I've yet to find him wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/user/LACK78

I don't know what the answer is as far as getting people to wake up. Most people are utter sheeple when it comes to adhering to the diktats of government. They implicitly trust government and they shouldn't. Very few governments are really in lockstep with their people. Iceland is one, the Swiss do fairly well in this regard, as does Finland and Denmark. Again, very few.

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RonanTheGrey 2090 days ago
Someone didn't like my question heh, just wanted to say thank you for your reply. Will check him out.
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