[jerodsanto]

Additional topics discussed in our just-released conversation[1] with GitLab and Element leads:

1. What happened to "ChatOps" and why is GitLab divesting in this space?

2. Who contacted whom? What are some details of the acquisition process and negotiations?

3. What does this mean at a practical sense for existing Gitter users?

4. What's going to happen in the next 6, 12, and 18 months?

[1]: https://changelog.com/podcast/414

[sytse]

1. ChatOps is still a feature of GitLab https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/ci/chatops/ and supports multiple chat platforms. GitLab doesn't need to own the chat to make chatops work.

2. GitLab contacted Matrix.

I think 3. and 4. have answers in https://matrix.org/blog/2020/09/30/welcoming-gitter-to-matri...

[sm4rk0]

I believe that grandparent wanted us to listen to the interview (:

[ptman]

I'd be happy with a transcript. Much faster to read than listen.

[erikbye]

Is there a transcript?

[Arathorn]

there is now: https://changelog.com/podcast/414

[erikbye]

Nice, thanks.

[tha0x5]

"ChatOps" almost invariably means Slack. That's why GitLab is divesting in that space.

Look at what happened HipChat, Stride, etc.