[faeyanpiraat]

I’m not convinced these diets work as advertised..

I’ve read tons of scientific papers and there are too many contradictions.

For example these diets tend to forbid gluten intake, but some research imply better outcomes for patients with high whole grain intake.

I’ve also read that inflamation is useful for preventing cancer, so what good is not having relapses when you get cancer from all the anti imflammatory stuff..

[toast0]

> I’ve read tons of scientific papers and there are too many contradictions.

Dietary science is full of contradictions, and sometimes contra-indications.

There seems to be a lot of focus on some sort of mythical one size fits all diet for everyone. As if everyone's body systems would react in the same way to any given diet and with an assumption that you can rigidly control the ingredients in your food while still getting food from the grocery store and possibly restaurants.

When evaluating diets for conditions, I would suggest trying to figure out:

a) is it grossly unhealthy / what signs could I use to see if it is affecting my health negatively? b) does it seem to work for some people? c) is it something I could feel satisfied with for a long time? d) how will I know if it's working or not? / how will I be able to confirm?

This is generally a smaller burden of proof than is there scientific consensus that it's a good idea. For many things that might have a connection to food, there isn't consensus on the mechanisms involved, and there may be multiple. It's plausible thst some mechanisms would be affected by diet, and others wouldn't, so some people would see good results by eliminating things, others would see no change, and others may have bad results.

[jorvi]

> I’ve also read that inflamation is useful for preventing cancer, so what good is not having relapses when you get cancer from all the anti imflammatory stuff..

Chronic inflammation is a cause of cancer, not a preventative.

[taurath]

In theory if you’re comparing white bread eaters to whole grain eaters I’d imagine there would be a net benefit. I wonder if whole grain vs no grain has been studied.

[Madmallard]

Are you deep in biology like with a minimum BS or higher degree? If not, might just be too difficult to understand the value of the ideas. The lady prescribing the Wahls protocol is an MD so has a lot more invested into the field than the layperson. That said, she could still be wrong.

One thing is for sure, there is no one-size-fits-all and there is no magic bullet. If there's something helpful for one condition, it's probably harmful for another. The body is a complex holistic system after all.

[citboin]

Dr.Wahls has been disingenuous about her recovery because she downplayed her chemotherapy and the expensive e-stim therapy she received, which is not covered by insurance, and chose instead to focus her promotion and communication on something she could commercialize - her diet. M.S. patients like myself who do not have six figures to spend on e-stim are generally better off focusing on creating an optimal diet that positively impacts their microbiome while maintaining a normal BMI and exercising at a comfortable level.

[specialist]

Eat more organ meat, more dietary fiber, more veggies.

What part of the Wahls protocol diet is suboptimal?

Aside from the extra effort and expense. I mean health wise.