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by doh 2100 days ago
>Pex fingerprints of videos are not the same.

We also download the content to our servers. We analyze it, hence the fingerprint, and then delete the content. So yes, it's not apples to apples, but it works very similarly.

>They have lot of this data ... because they host the majority of videos... which happens because hosting videos is expensive.

Fair, but not that necessary. Usage data is great, but YouTube has only data on YouTube. It would be great to have them, but the search is about letting person to find what they are looking for. And for that the exact usage data is not necessary.

>A pure search engine without hosting the actual video bytes and only links to others doesn't have the same virtuous loop of data feedback

Yes, but again, that's the same thing as when Google points you to a page. Yes they hold the HTML page, but you are not reading it there. They don't know if you read what's on the page, what you did there, etc. Same as we don't know what you did with the video once you got there.

>I disagree that it was billions in marketing https://www.wsj.com/articles/tiktoks-videos-are-goofy-its-st...

>Back in 2005, Google was also the default search engine for AOL and Yahoo and yet a little upstart like Youtube (without billions) was beating Google's own Video service! The irony! Susan Wojcicki was the early employee of Google who convinced Larry Page that they were losing and to acquire Youtube instead.

Nuances matter. Google bought YouTube not because it was beating their video service but because they were perceived by most users as a search engine and it posed huge competitive challenge to their core business. Why did Facebook buy Instagram?

>I disagree with a CEO who boils down his business disadvantages to "marketing" expenditures.

Fair. You are free to go and run with it. You don't have to agree with me. I gave you my reasoning why I am not doing it.

>If millions of others agree with you, that proves you have a compelling product. You don't need billions. Neither the early startup Google nor early Youtube had that type of money. Every company that seems formidable and unbeatable today because they have billions in the bank was previously a small company that didn't have billions. Likewise, you can be one of those companies that finds a way to billions instead of falling back on lack of marketing as the roadblock.

I don't think you understood. We built quite large and growing company already. I have no interest entering the market as I found better business for myself and the company. I shared with you my analysis of why I decided against entering the market. Again, you don't have to agree with it.