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Ssshhhhhh.... Sweden can only be used as an example when you compare it to complete fuck-ups like the US or UK, or if you add in countries that were hit early before we knew how virulent covid-19 was and that it could be spread asymptomatically. If you put it into context with its similar neighbors then the failure of the herd immunity plan is laid bare.

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So bad form to reply to one's own comment, but am I the only one who finds it quite ironic that today the Swedish PM was warning of a growing second wave there because people were not following social distancing suggestions and it turns out that they were not even close to achieving herd immunity.

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Show me what Tegnell said. I haven't seen what the PM said but they almost certainly don't know what they're talking about.

BTW, this is what Sweden looks like now:

https://twitter.com/SeanCollins66/status/1309179008018513926

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Sure, the PM didn't know what they are talking about, but an ill-informed rando on HN who clearly has no expertise in either medicine, epidemiology, or statistics is the one we should pay attention to... Case numbers are rising. Death rate still far in excess of Norway, Finland, or Denmark. Well, at least we get a no-name comic tweeting pictures of life in Sweden to prove our point. This whole conversation is such a waste of time.