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by lexicality 2102 days ago
If you don't mind me asking, what attracts you to the Tory party? Everyone I know seems to despise them for all the cuts to social welfare and racist comments, so I'd be very interested to get some thoughts from outside the echo chamber.
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I can answer at least something, though I'm not a Tory, so someone please correct me if I'm mischaracterising:

1) David Camerons right to own policy was very favourable among young adults who felt like they will never be able to own a home. I had a friend of mine tell me that he "selfishly" voted tory because of that policy.

I didn't have the heart to tell him where the money came from.

2) Tories are good at projecting a feeling of "control" and making their opponents seem a bit chaotic or not as clear. Their opponents do not help themselves here.

This is my own observation, I see often that tories will speak clearly with a single voice and paint labour as being "in chaos" or that labour is seriously divided on key issues.

3) People are generally afraid of immigration. Tories are on the anti-immigration side of things publicly (though, this is betrayed by their actual policies, because immigration brings a lot of wealth to the country.)

4) People don't like taxes, and see the cuts to public services as "eventually coming to them". This was told to me by my friends father who voted tory.

Pretty much the Brexit issue and how incompetent Labour have been lately.

When I was younger I definitely favoured Labour, but drifted towards Tory/Brexit party when Brexit happened. I don't particularly like giant power structures and want small government - Labour will never give me that. I also strongly identify with core conservative values, even if the Tories don't project them very well, I don't see an alternative.

Sibling comment is fairly on point.

TL;DR: "The least worst" party (imo).

What would you consider 'core conservative values'?
- Small government

- Pro free speech (or as The Guardian like to describe me, "free speech extremist")

- Equality of opportunity (but not "positive" discrimination), NHS and safety nets fit here

- Proud of our country and history, and acknowledging the bad parts without trying to destroy them

- Capitalism/free markets over intense regulation

- Pro small business and anti corporatism

- Self responsibility

So definitely not the current Tory party, but more ideologically aligned with me than any other.

Thanks for answering! I'd love to discuss your values in more detail but this really isn't the place to do that.

For now, I'd definitely ask you to consider if supporting the current party (which as you note is antithetical to some of your values) might damage the country or move it too far away from your ideals?

I generally feel let down by all the major political parties, so I've been attempting to vote for whoever will do the least harm but it's so hard to figure that out these days :/

The problem is there's very few electable parties. I'm a fan of the Brexit Party but I doubt they'd ever get a real platform to get in. My only other options are protest votes, so all incentives point to the Tories. Being part of the party (rather than an outsider) at least allows me to influence it. Hopefully Labour bounces back, but as long as they stay on their current course, they're generally unelectable for us northerners.