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by mytailorisrich 2103 days ago
Taiwan and Korea also managed.

In mainland China authoritarianism played a part but people made a lot of efforts by themselves, not out of fear, like in Taiwan and Korea.

I think that's one of the main problems we're having in the UK. Too many people have zero civic sense and complain about their "freedoms being infringed" instead seeing the big picture that in an epidemic everyone must act together for the group at the cost of individual sacrifices.
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throwawayinfo 2103 days ago
But those are vastly different countries, there are far too many variables to unpack before making a conclusive decision.

Freedoms are being infringed, but I do understand the need to sacrifice. We're not being asked for a lot compared to previous generations.

What we do need is real leadership though and lack of leadership is causing people to check out of caring about the virus. People would care a lot more if they believed their government had a plan.

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mytailorisrich 2103 days ago
They are only vastly different compared to us in the sense that they had a plan and that they implemented it early and decisively as one.

> Freedoms are being infringed, but I do understand the need to sacrifice.

That's the point, isn't it? To understand that individual freedoms, and individualism, are not absolute and can be reduced temporarily when necessary.

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throwawayinfo 2103 days ago
> That's the point, isn't it? To understand that individual freedoms, and individualism, are not absolute and can be reduced temporarily when necessary.

Yes and no.

An individual right/freedom is immutable. It's not something "granted" to us by government, and not something they should be able to take away.

I understand the need for emergency measures, but in my opinion the government should've gotten consent before continuing this for months on end. There is a balance to be had here.

It's not a sacrifice if it's not a choice.

We now know the government doesn't have an exit strategy, so we could be stuck in this state for many more months to come. This is espet alarming when you consider people are missing NHS appointments (e.g. cancer diagnosis) or the serious economic issues. Serious fallout is coming.

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