[malux85]

> We would not experience time if there was no motion

> whereas time is an emergent property not of spatial dimensions alone, but motion in that space.

Is that proven true generally? I have often really wondered this myself, but Ive not had anyone to ask for a fundamental proof of this. I appreciate your thorough answers could you please explain or point me in the right direction?

[angel_j]

I am using motion quite generally, to include the motion of particles, heat, etc. I don't know if the emergent property stuff is proven or discussed much, but I think the field is coming around to it, if for no other reason than they are running out of ideas.

Physics has been working in the top-down direction. That is not how you find emergent properties, it is an attempt to explain things from the properties they seem to possess.

For instance, the relatively gigantic boson is somehow "sub-atomic", to particle physicists. Whereas I think it that particles emerge from the breakdown of the bosonic field, and when we smash together the particles which reveal the boson, we are briefly seeing what happens when we have put them back together. See my comment here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21039542

A very good primer on this is "Intensive Science and Virtual Philosophy" by Manuel DeLanda.