[labawi]

> it will lead to revolutions and regime changes, it cannot possibly work.

While we're all comfy with cheap energy and produce, IMHO revolutions and regime changes aren't neccesarrily a showstopper. With +2℃ we will have regime changes, lots of refugees, probably revolutions, while hopefully avoiding war.

[yholio]

But the timescales are entirely different. To prevent +2°C a few decades or a century down the road, politicians need to make today moves that are guaranteed to leave them unemployed in the best case and and possibly even guillotined. It's simply not fathomable, whoever proposes a 3x increase in the price of food and energy as a solution for anything has no connection to reality.