[CaptainZapp]

Your reply bugs me. Not yours personally, but especially in the US this attitude seems to be a very binary thing. You either die, or most people survive it and your chances of survival seem to be good.

What this leaves out is all those nasty consequences observed, where Covid victims survive, but encounter all sorts of health issues. From kidney - to heart damage, up to funky things it may do to your brain.

This leaves out the long timers[1], who survive it, but have massive health issues for month with no end in sight.

I, for one, are really hell bent not to catch it and as a society there seems to be number of quite simple measures to avoid spread.

Unfortunately even those, like masks, in my opinion a no brainer, get politicized.

[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/06/covid-19-...

[Kiro]

Funny that you've shifted your argument from death rates to "long-term effects" when it no longer fits your agenda.

> Sweden is slithering into a full blown catastrophy […] the numbers are bound to explode in the next few days.

> The grim reality, however, looks very different and Sweden is on the best way to one of the greatest corona catastrophies in Europe.

Didn't happen and the curve continued to sharply decline after you made your comment. Sweden currently has one of the lowest infection rates in Europe and exactly what I said would happen is happening in other countries.

[pbhjpbhj]

Thank you, just to expand, as I fear there's a disconnect.

"we don't need to rush this" and put out a vaccine super-quick that might itself inadvertently kill/harm a large proportion of the population.

I'm not at all diminishing the severity of Covid19 (deaths _&_ life-changing health effects, as you remind us), but thankfully it's not killing 40% (IIRC) of the infected like Ebola. Under that pressure a vaccine would probably be advisable even if it 'only' killed 20% (!) - if you could get anyone to have such a vaccine?

All vaccination programmes cause some harm, mass inoculation in a rush has the potential to cause more harm than no vaccination.

There's some very interesting work on apparent immunity to Covid19 going on (The Lancet article recently), which I'm hoping will suggest that an endemic "common cold" coronavirus has effectively inoculated people. That would seem to give an inoculation known to already be relatively safe. But it's way out of my areas of expertise.