| > You explicitly claimed it wouldn't be worse. Consider applying your own standards to that claim. Having a choice is always better than not having one with regards personal preferences. That's my standard. What's yours aside from "I don't like web apps"? > Your entire objection, which seems to carry some unusual assumptions about the power and utility of thought experiments and the extent of the value of comparing similar, but not identical, things. Notably, it appears to reject them as being to any useful degree, even for evaluating a user-facing OS feature valid or enlightening. For example? You are needlessly complicating the conversation with all this meta-drivel. It's pretty simple really: You want everybody to have no choice. I want people to have a choice. I stated my position pretty clearly. You're just giving opinions and philosophizing. > Making them opt-in and off by default, ideally with no way for the app to tell whether they're enabled, would be an improvement... Good - we've moved from zero choice, to some choice. We're making progress! > because I do not like webapps and prefer an environment that makes me less likely to encounter them for any reason. That's not a reason. That's an opinion and a personal preference. You didn't state the reason for your opinion that nobody should be able to get PWA notifications. > I entirely get disagreement with my position on a variety of grounds, but I find such apparent failure to even engage with it, and rejection that it is a position, harder to understand. You still haven't stated anything other than your opinion. |
That's all either of us have been doing. [EDIT] and an opinion can be a reason! They're not mutually exclusive. Do you need an itemized list of problems I have with webapps, with figures backing them all up (else they'd be opinions again, I guess)? I figured that'd been discussed to death, especially on HN.
> Having a choice is always better than not having one with regards personal preferences. That's my standard. What's yours aside from "I don't like web apps"?
I like being able to choose a platform that makes it hard for developers to get by with a webapp, pushing them toward native apps. See? I like choice too.