[fakedang]

I do say I'll switch to Samsung or a One Plus if I'm looking for a higher end, an OPPO or Vivo if I'm going for a lower end, or a Redmi or Honor, if I'm going for a midrange resilient phone.

I use a Blackberry for my black box phone, so I don't really care about security on my Android stuff - Google or China can have all that's in there. What I do care about are having options, and Android does provide me a lot of options. For instance, my first Android phone was a Samsung and while the phone was awesome and lasted a solid 4 years, I hated the customer service offered. Then thought I'd have a cheaper Android, so decided to go with a Motorola. Then once I joined the workforce, it was the BB + Honor combo, because Honors are so much resilient. Just because Android has so much more options doesn't mean they are commodity devices, unless you look at phones as a status symbol, which is a thinking I've honestly grown out of.

[2muchcoffeeman]

>* I use a Blackberry for my black box phone*

I don’t think you’re representative of the general market...

I’ve never heard of people talking about the “Samsung experience”, or the “Huawei experience”. These devices are interchangeable. People talk about specs or price or getting longer term support.

[fakedang]

I mentioned the Blackbox phone only because folks here (and mostly here alone) care about privacy. People outside this ecosystem don't give a damn about privacy - it's either the value of the phone at its price or its the capability of the phone which appeals to them.

Appleistas are the only ones who talk about the Apple experience because clearly it's only Apple which came up with that marketing gimmick. There's nothing different or even superbly superior of the Apple experience compared to the Huawei or Samsung experience. On the contrary, it's effectively much easier for most people I've met to get familiar with Android over Apple. Like most people mention here regularly, most people buy Apple only because of the green chat box stigma.

[tekknik]

> There's nothing different or even superbly superior of the Apple experience compared to the Huawei or Samsung experience.

Absolute horse crap, unless you speak for the market. I don’t have to carry two phones and also don’t have to worry about privacy. In fact I have a phone made by a company who could really give two craps about the ad market and feeding it more data. Second is you can be sure if it’s Apple you’ll get quality. With other android phones you’ll get mostly cheap. The user interface style on android is also ugly, cards are old, material is boring, but this is subjective, just like you saying Apple provides no better experience than Samshit or Chinawei

[fakedang]

The privacy of an Apple phone that allowed the Saudi prince to order a hacking into Bezos' phone, which ultimately leaked out info and led to his divorce? Yeah, no thanks.

Being on Blackberry, or any non-Google phone really, allows me to segregate my really important stuff from my every day stuff. Equating Apple's security to that kind of segregated security is a bunch of absolute horse crap.

[tekknik]

Here you go, read how this worked: https://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Issues/Expression/SRsSumexFr...

TLDR, if your phone passes network traffic then it can be “hacked” too.

Security through obscurity is also horse crap, but hey carry your two phones if it makes you feel safer!