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by zepto 2100 days ago
So what word would be good to describe your behavior in writing a long screed that accuses me of lacking empathy? Covid! Fires! Loved ones! US Politics! Oh my! Is this you giving a demonstration of empathy for me?

I have plenty of empathy if developers are actually facing pain. Piling on to attack Apple, not so much. Apple employees also have families and many of them are in California too. I’m guessing they too are affected by all of these issues.

If the original author was able to articulate the pain they are facing, I’d have empathy for them.

They didn’t in fact do so, which is why we’re trying to figure out what the negative impacts would be.

It’s absurd also to suggest that there was an iOS release with no warning. That is simply not true. We’ve been expecting it for months, and we also knew the release schedule would be different this year.

If people are being pressured by managers in some painful way, then I do feel for them, but if that pressure is occurring because managers actually have a false understanding of what is at stake, then it is more empathetic to discuss the misunderstandings about this than it is to just nod along.

It’s really not clear at all what pain anyone should be feeling.

Presumably their apps are ready to go, and all they have to do is submit them and wait.

As we’ve already discussed, almost nobody should be actually discovering bugs now, regardless of Apple’s scheduling.

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Everyone knew iOS was coming out sometime soon. Nobody knew that Apple would drop the actual update the day after the Golden Master. They had absolutely no reason to. The fact that this went out, and that Apple themselves were unable to ship their own software on time to support this release, is an extremely annoying move. You sitting there and saying there "should" be no bugs is nice but not indicative at all of reality, where Apple changes their software and ships new bugs in the GM itself.
I agree it’s annoying.

It’s just that nobody has been able to articulate why it’s any more than that.

The fact that Apple’s own software is not all updated just proves this point, since they obviously did know when it was going to be released.

Nowhere am I saying there should be no bugs. Just that this move has very little impact on bug fixing.

> The fact that Apple’s own software is not all updated just proves this point, since they obviously did know when it was going to be released.

I'm not sure I understand?

If it was such a big deal for all the software to be updated on day 1, Apple could have made sure their own software was updated.

It just isn’t a big deal.

I love that you aren't in this field at all, but seem to know better than others who are. This is like that person that starts a new job, walks in on day one, and then proclaims that the place is doing everything wrong without knowing anything about how the business operates.
The only person who doesn’t know what they are talking about is you in this comment.

You know nothing about me.

Until you started making personal attacks, this was simply disagreement and many interesting points were made, which is fine. Perhaps most people agree with your perspective.

You with this comment, on the other hand are literally offering nothing except ignorance to this conversation. No valuable analysis, and only incorrect facts.

I wonder why you feel the need to do this?

What would make you decide that this was helpful? Do you think you are protecting someone?