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Now you mention it, I haven't heard much (mind you I'm not in SF or anywhere near the startup world) about the startup frat culture in a while now. The investors have become less spendthrifty (?), some of the really big ones (wework?) have fallen from grace, and the older generation (e.g. Google) has really toned it down as well.

I mean for a good while it was like, Google is the place to be because they only hire the smartest and they take really good care of their employees. But as time goes by, turns out what they do is just a job, their developers are all right, they've got tons of legacy code, etc.

I was offered to apply to their "apps" department (think Docs and co) in Germany, but it just did not sound appealing.