[Grimm1]

Sorry, I just get frustrated being told every 25 year old is a no experience green hack. I've worked with plenty of older devs who are absolutely a treasure to this industry.

[throwaway189262]

I'm quite a bit older and some programmers with fancier titles are still asses. I know a guy that honestly sucks and knows it (he's lazy and just wants $$$). He's got "Sr Staff" from demanding a title bump every time he hops jobs. At most companies titles are meaningless, pay is all that matters.

Programmers are all over the place skills wise. The only time I had a team where everybody was competent was when me and a couple good guys got to interview everyone. Just the way it is

[Frondo]

I felt this way when I was 25, like I'd been programming since I was 7 and I was hot shit.

I'm approaching 40 now and only in the last year or two does it occur to me that, even at 25, I was really only middle-grade.

I wonder what you'll think if you look back in 15 years, about your skills now.