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by dragonwriter 2104 days ago
> Why is it pointless? Corporations are simply a collective of people, working together.

They really are not, and the entire corporate form is structured and governed by law differently than partnerships to make them not like that.

I mean, unless you count the chartering government, it's constituents, and all the investors as part of the group, as well as all the managers and other employees. But its completely useless to talk about the collectively morality of the aggregate of such a heterogenous group of individual actors with different knowledge and constraints with regard to the actions of the corporations. It makes sense to talk about, in any given value framework, the desirability of corporate action, and the morality of any of the individual actors.

> Corporations poisoning people by flooding chemicals into rivers or releasing gasses or toxins, murdering people with product defects they decided not recall or destroying society's common goods, but all the people involved were let free rather than incarcerated for 20 years as accessories to murder?

That's the consequence of viewing the corporation as an independent moral actor, since that allows viewing the corporation as the responsible party.

> I'm a pragmatist, it's not going to change

I'm a pragmatist, and recognize that it needs to change, and that change starts with not viewing corporations as moral agents, but as tools.