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by zatel 2101 days ago
I stand by my view that anyone should have right to kill themselves.

I would be very sad if someone close to me did so but that shouldn't stop them from doing it. I consider this a basic freedom of being a living creature. If you don't have the power to end your life then do you really own it?

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It's pretty much impossible to take away that freedom, killing yourself is not particularly difficult. The more interesting question is whether someone else should be able to kill you, if they think it is what you want.

And I think suicide prevention is still very important, since many people who attempt to commit suicide regret it afterwards.

The problem isn't ending one's own life, but doing so with dignity, in an orderly fashion. How not to leave a mess behind? That takes solid preparation, which is difficult given the massive social stigma. Wouldn't it be nice if one didn't need an "excuse", like a terrible disease, to be allowed an uneventful exit? I'd find it a liberating idea if such a thing were normalized. Parties are more enjoyable when you can leave any time you like. Let me stay just because I want to, without worries what will happen should I change my mind.
At the end my dad asked the nurses to stop the oxygen he got via a mask. They called a doctor who made sure he knew what the likely consequences of his request would be, and he assured the doctor he did. So they turned it off and took of his mask. He passed away a few hours later.

Technically I guess this is assisted suicide. He had untreatable cancer in the lungs, he'd just gotten pneumonia and he and the doctor knew it wasn't going to get better. So he decided his time was up.

But from what I understand this is not the common case. Rather it is people who struggle with their emotions[1][2], which can pass or be treated. For those I think it's important to not give in to their temporary wishes, and to help them get past it.

[1]: https://www.nrk.no/osloogviken/truls-om-selvmordsforsoket_-_...

[2]: https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/xl/trigger-warning-1.14716227

I find it pretty crazy that suicide is considered bad, it's kind of selfish honestly. Of course there's a lot of situations in which the way the person feels is just temporary, but a lot of suicides aren't a spur of the moment decision. People often think about such an important decision very carefully.

The lengths psychiatric institutions and society is willing to go in order to deny you the choice of living is absolutely disgusting.

I mostly agree, but I'm not sure complete "suicide liberalisation" is the answer.

For most people, suicide is a very temporary state of mind, and many people who are prevented from committing suicide are glad that they were stopped.

Given the very final nature of the act, perhaps it's best to have some cooling off period before a state sanctioned suicide can be authorized?

Not sure people are generally arguing different.

Most people consider other people who want to kill themselves in a point in time as having temporary insanity so stopping them in the act is ok, because it is not 'them'.

It is also ok to want to stop people wanting to long term kill themselves like stopping adictive behavior.

Using force here might be controversial but we can just do the same playbook as addiction.