Up to 90% of the positive cases in the US would not be positive in Germany due to how PCR tests are performed in each country, and what countries code as coronavirus deaths also differs. Making comparisons between countries is hard. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testin...
That’s a weird retort. At least deaths should be reasonably robust and there is really no comparison there between Germany and the US.
Germany is doing fantastically better than the US. All the while measures have been relaxed way more here than in the US. “Lockdowns” were also never really harsh in Germany and only lasted a very short time.
Three factors are suspected to be at play there:
* very early testing that detected community spread with unknown origins very early on (using the influenza sentinel system for detection)
* luckily being late in importing the virus, which lead to …
* … politicians being able to “look into the future” by looking at Italy (a place that unluckily imported the virus quite a bit earlier)
As a result Germany relatively quickly (though Germany could have acted a bit faster and have been even more effective) implemented quite mild measures for a relatively short amount of time. Some of those measures are still in place, most were, however, lifted in the meantime.
This lead to a still enduring drop to very low numbers, extremely low numbers if you look at deaths. Even though measures at this point often are much milder than in the US.
Your defensive “numbers aren’t comparable” retort is bullshit. Mostly because, sure, the numbers aren’t comparable. Sure, that’s true. But we aren’t talking about orders of magnitude here.
Germany is doing fantastically better than the US. No matter what you measure, whether it’s infections, deaths, excess deaths, economic impact. You name it.
The excess mortality is harder to fake or mis-measure though. There are no perfect numbers here (a lesson about measurement in general), but there is no reasonable argument that the US is doing anything but much much worse than Germany.
And yet Germany is not currently "locked down". The argument that Germany is among the best of all countries at handling this is not an argument for "if everyone just wears a mask and doesn't leave their home forever" -- that is not what happened in Germany. At all.
That is Wrong and the linked article does not support your Assertion. German Labs are running the same high (35+) number of cycles that US Labs are. The Discussion to define a cutoff Value is ongoing.
Germany is doing fantastically better than the US. All the while measures have been relaxed way more here than in the US. “Lockdowns” were also never really harsh in Germany and only lasted a very short time.
Three factors are suspected to be at play there:
* very early testing that detected community spread with unknown origins very early on (using the influenza sentinel system for detection)
* luckily being late in importing the virus, which lead to …
* … politicians being able to “look into the future” by looking at Italy (a place that unluckily imported the virus quite a bit earlier)
As a result Germany relatively quickly (though Germany could have acted a bit faster and have been even more effective) implemented quite mild measures for a relatively short amount of time. Some of those measures are still in place, most were, however, lifted in the meantime.
This lead to a still enduring drop to very low numbers, extremely low numbers if you look at deaths. Even though measures at this point often are much milder than in the US.
Your defensive “numbers aren’t comparable” retort is bullshit. Mostly because, sure, the numbers aren’t comparable. Sure, that’s true. But we aren’t talking about orders of magnitude here.
Germany is doing fantastically better than the US. No matter what you measure, whether it’s infections, deaths, excess deaths, economic impact. You name it.