[gryfft]

Ahem.[1][2]

"We'll see?" This guy has been milking this since 1991. As Aaronson's article so sardonically points out, there's nothing there to debunk. Every claim that can be made about the "hydrino" can be made with equal weight about the "doofusino," so what's the point?

He's had three DECADES to set up any kind of publicity stunt or get the attention of any number of existing billionaires or just scrape together the resources he needs to build the no-shit this-changes-everything prototype. Or maybe Elon Musk and everyone who knows him is an idiot without vision who think they can make a buck on solar when this guy's world-changing technology is right around the corner this time for really real I promise.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliant_Light_Power#Criticis...

[2] https://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/doofusino.html

[dave333]

The Wikipedia article has been policed by skeptics and is not a fair assessment of Mills. Doofusino theory article is just satire and offers no serious rebuttal. Mills has made considerable progress over the decades overcoming engineering challenges in harnessing hydrino energy release. Recent advances of electromagnetically pumped liquid metal electrodes (to solve the problem of tungsten electrodes instantly melting), and a ceramic cell liner (solves the problem of the hydrinos melting a hole in the side of the reaction vessel) have got Mills close to a field prototype and he has prototypes that produce hundreds of kW continuously (hundred hour run) with water bath calorimetry. The skeptics will soon have scoffed their last.

[gryfft]

Policed by skeptics? That's the POINT of Wikipedia! Are you saying that a communal resource based on accurately documenting actual reality should be run by credulous people who will accept any statement without applying one second's worth of critical thinking?

As I said, Doofusino doesn't NEED to be a rebuttal. THERE IS NOTHING HERE TO REBUT. The proof is in the pudding and Mills has no pudding whatsoever. All he has are his claims about all the magical fairytale things his wonderful technology can do.

I don't care if he says it can braid my hair and create free cheerios on demand because he finally found the right alloy to use in his psychogravitic negamatrix. It's not real until there's proof and he hasn't offered any in thirty years. See you in another thirty, I guess.

[dave333]

Wikipedia doesn't support debate - only authoritative sources are allowed - which means novel theories yet to be fully accepted get locked out and ridiculed by the skeptically correct.

There are many experimental papers that show hydrinos exist and have the properties predicted by Mills classical model of the hydrogen atom. https://brilliantlightpower.com/ has many videos of working prototypes producing excess energy. Dark matter exists and interacts gravitationally like baryonic matter but is electromagnetically inert like hydrinos are predicted to be. The expansion of the universe accelerates (Mills predicted in the 1990s). Etc.

[dave333]

Also fusion energy research has been consuming billions for decades with little if any real progress. Of course everyone believes in this because there were plenty of believable demos in the bombing of Japan and the nuclear tests.

[gryfft]

The difference is that nuclear fusion has happened before. In fact, if you go outside and look up on a clear day or night, you can see it happening right now.

Nobody has ever created hydrinos. They are not real. If they were, he would be selling barrels of hydrinos. He will never sell one single hydrino. Because they are not real.

[dave333]

Well he has bottles of hydrinos and multiple experimental results (e.g. gas chromatography with passage faster than any known substance) that prove hydrinos exist and have exactly the properties his theory predicts.

[gryfft]

The fact that you continue to think this is true after this guy has been selling this snake oil for thirty years makes me think you've given money to him. If so, I'm truly sorry he took you in like that, and I suggest cutting your losses if you can.

[dave333]

I wish - I admit I did look into buying shares but it was too expensive. The reason I believe in it is that I have read all his papers and his hydrogen atom model makes a lot more sense than the Shroedinger electron probability distribution does. Then there are all the predictions of the model that come out in precise agreement with experimental values.

The fact that you continue to sneer tells me you have not seriously examined his claims and merely rely on biased secondary sources. Yelling rubbish more loudly does not an argument make.

[gryfft]

How expensive are they?