[leereeves]

Feel free to call it what you like; it doesn't bother me.

But it's not "misleading" (as you claimed above) to call it a microphone. It clearly is a microphone, albeit "smarter" than most microphones.

And whatever a particular customer's use case might be, the microphone is the reason Amazon sells them below cost.

[fastball]

I can call it whatever I want? I'm not the one committing the fallacy of composition here.

The device in question is definitely not a microphone. It has a microphone.

Smart TVs, Smart Fridges, Smart Thermostats, and Smart Clocks can all have microphones. That doesn't mean you should call them smart microphones. Microphones are used for the UX of a smart speaker because before speakers were smart they were already interacting with your ears, and using your voice is a natural complement to that (just like a conversation with another human). Not because the intention was to make passive listening devices that spy on you.

[leereeves]

It's not a speaker either; it merely has a speaker. Most of its advertised features are not features of a speaker.

It makes just as much sense to call it a smart microphone as a smart speaker, even if it's bad PR for Amazon.

Consider your own examples: add a microphone and voice rec to a thermostat and you get a smart thermostat. Connect an Echo to a thermostat and you get exactly the same thing; the Echo is providing the microphone and voice rec.

[fastball]

The reason it is called a smart speaker is because of the form factor, which is that of a speaker. It is a speaker with more things inside of it. The "smartness" is contained within the "speaker".

It is the same formula for every other smart device mentioned in this thread:

1. Take device with certain form factor

2. Add computer chip and new interfacing capability (touchscreens, fancier remotes, microphones, internet control)

3. It is now a "smart" [form factor]

[leereeves]

Since you're a fan of fallacies, that's moving the goalposts.

Earlier you insisted we name the device based on what it is, not merely a part of it. Now you want to name it after the case, which is merely a part of it.

Feel free to use that formula yourself but I see no reason why you should insist that everyone else use it.

[fastball]

That is the formula everyone else is already using – you're the exception, not the rule.

> Earlier you insisted we name the device based on what it is,

Yes, on what it is. As I've said, the convention is to name something "Smart X" based on adding "smart" features and whatever the form factor is. So this is a smart speaker.

There is no precedent to call this a smart microphone, and again, there are other things with microphones that we don't call smart microphones for that reason.

The speaker is part of the device, sure. But it is also the form factor of the device, a title the mic cannot claim. There is no conflict there, just further explanation was required because you are being deliberately obtuse.