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by natcombs 2107 days ago
The screenshot shows a request, not a demand. The tweet’s headline is clearly clickbait
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It’s also confusing to refer to an Amazon microphone because I am not sure what product are writing about. I think most people know that an echo has microphones and doesn’t read brainwaves.
There is even someone in the twitter thread pointing out that Amazon uses the word "microphone" in their copy, as if that is some sort of "gotcha".

No, Amazon isn't trying to pretend the Echo doesn't have a microphone – they just think it's misleading to refer to a smart speaker as an "Amazon microphone", and I happen to agree.

> smart speaker

That's pretty misleading as well. Speakers cannot listen, but the Echo can.

Pedantic: Speakers can listen and basically any speaker can be wired up to also be a microphone.
Microphones cannot speak, but the Echo can.
In the context of the original article, the ability to "speak" is completely irrelevant since it's the privacy risks that are being highlighted. I think "microphone" is a perfectly fine way to capture the essence of the entire Alexa product line in this regard.
Actually all microphones can "speak". All speakers can be used as microphones as well. It's not like the conversion process only works one way.
That's kind of a technicality, the vast majority of non-mic'd speakers don't have all the required hardware or software to save or transmit audio to anything.
>Actually all microphones can "speak".

Counterexample: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_microphone

> smart
I thought that at some point smart meant self regulating, followed by TVs being "smart" by having apps and an always on network connection. Neither of these implied a microphone.
Everything I can think of which we've just slapped "smart" in front of in recent years is smart because it is more interactive / capable (in a technology centric way) than the corresponding "dumb" counterpart.

Smart speakers work great as dumb speakers and (generally) have the form factor you expect from dumb speakers. They are a lot more capable than the dumb ones due to a variety of additions, one of which is a microphone that allows it to respond to voice commands.

Then let's call it a smart microphone.
No, because that is redundant. The microphone is part of what makes the device smart (interactive).

"Smart X" is a pretty widely used convention, where X is some not-very-interactive device which has some sort of interactive UX added to it in order to make it smart.

Many Smart TVs these days have microphones too. Should we call those "smart microphones" as well?

It's in like the seventh paragraph of the article - I think people have figured out that they're talking about Echo and Alexa. And the salient point for the sentence (which ends "we should also be critical about where the data extracted from us ends up") is the microphone part of the product and not the rest of it. It's more specific, not more confusing.
I think it’s fair to characterize the device as a (smart) microphone. Without that ability it wouldn’t be able to process people’s queries. Obviously AMZ wants to minimize the association with “mics” because it atunes people to that aspect of the device (ie in listening mode).
And the last sentence indicates the author explicitly reached out to Amazon for comments.
>The screenshot shows a request, not a demand. The tweet’s headline is clearly clickbait

And amazon will stop offering free devices for their journalism and their AWS services will be flaky if they don't comply with the "request". Pretending like there is no leverage here from Amazon is a bit obtuse.