[thaumasiotes]

No, GoG Galaxy is not entirely optional. It is required to run many newer games, and can be required even if you're not trying to play multiplayer.

I don't understand how this is supposed to be compatible with GoG's marketing as "the DRM-free home for games".

[speeder]

What game requires GoG Galaxy?

EDIT: even googled it, found out Darkest Dungeon by default install a version that does need GoG Galaxy, but the DRM-free version is available on GoG site too, just need to choose that downloader instead. But that was it. Didn't found any other obvious complaints of GoG Galaxy being required.

[thaumasiotes]

Northgard requires Galaxy for single-player content. It's not subtle about it.

Your response says more about what you can tell with a quick google search than anything else.

I'm fascinated that I've been complaining about this here on HN for months, and the only response I ever get -- which comes up every time -- is "what are you talking about, that's not true". This isn't a matter of opinion. It's not even difficult to check. And yet, there are so many people whose worldview apparently rests on the opposite of the facts.

[Crosseye_Jack]

Looks like in the case of Northgard their conquest mode has some server side stuff happening in that mode which then requires the use of GOG Galaxy :-S

https://www.gog.com/forum/northgard/warning_gog_galaxy_is_re...

[rhn_mk1]

When checking Northgard, Galaxy seems to be required for "online content". So it at least seems right that Galaxy is not optional for some stuff.

However, I haven't found any evidence that Galaxy is required for single player. In fact, I found evidence to the contrary: the game has a Linux version, where Galaxy is not available.

[thaumasiotes]

Jesus Christ. Your failure to find evidence is not an argument. It's not hard to find!

Here's a prominent forum thread in the Northgard forum on GoG: https://www.gog.com/forum/northgard/warning_gog_galaxy_is_re...

Note that title: "Warning: GOG Galaxy is required to use conquest mode."

Conquest mode is a single-player mode. In fact, it's the only mode that allows you to use any of the Northgard DLC content. Without running Galaxy, all you can do is run through the story campaign.

What is your mental model of my commenting here? I posted a rant complaining about deluded people contradicting the basic facts every time I bring this up, and that's the comment you responded to in order to... demonstrate an example? Did you really think I was just making it all up?

[speeder]

Alright, so it is ONE mode, of ONE game that requires this... that was a (poor in my opinion) decision of the gamedev, nothing to do with GoG Galaxy itself.

It is similar to Diablo 3, SimCity 5 and Anno 2070 that have single-player features that are processed server-side, maybe like these ones it is a disguised DRM too.

So your original argument is still wrong.

Galaxy is not required to play "many newer games", it is required to play one, maybe a bit more games, where the dev made some questionable decision.

Also you asked about GoG being a platform for DRM-free games, even Northgard would still fit some definition of that: skirmish mode and campaign mode work even in the Steam version without the DRM. Seemly that particular game online shenanigans is purely to add DRM to the DLC, not the main game. (I still think that this is shady, but the original argument others were making still stands, Galaxy is not DRM, and you usually don't need it.)

[sushid]

The other commenter straight up refuted your statement. It’s ridiculous to see you move the goalpost after having been hand-fed the counter evidence.

[thaumasiotes]

Try reading my comment again. Galaxy is required for many newer games, serving as a total block on multiplayer. Some games are especially egregious in that they also use Galaxy to block single-player modes.

[rhn_mk1]

I'd like to note that the burden of proof lies on the one making an assertion. You can't blame anyone for failing to find evidence for your thesis.